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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hy there Yvonne - you might want to delve into &lt;a href=&quot;/project-twmmf/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Web Makes Me Feel&lt;/a&gt; stats a little where we&#039;ve found &quot;learning (q&amp;a)&quot; is actually the second most popular reason why young people use the web positively.

Like we always say, the web is simply a foil for us all - therefore if you&#039;re younger and friendships are more important then that&#039;s what you will use it for ;-)

As for our price, we actually dropped our entry level training package cost in &lt;a href=&quot;/2010/02/new-training-package-structure/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this announcement&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hy there Yvonne &#8211; you might want to delve into <a href="/project-twmmf/" rel="nofollow">The Web Makes Me Feel</a> stats a little where we&#8217;ve found &#8220;learning (q&amp;a)&#8221; is actually the second most popular reason why young people use the web positively.</p>
<p>Like we always say, the web is simply a foil for us all &#8211; therefore if you&#8217;re younger and friendships are more important then that&#8217;s what you will use it for ;-)</p>
<p>As for our price, we actually dropped our entry level training package cost in <a href="/2010/02/new-training-package-structure/" rel="nofollow">this announcement</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: David Wilcox</title>
		<link>http://mediasnackers.com/2010/02/ladders-of-participation/#comment-3401</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Yvonne - can&#039;t answer directly, but there were some very interesting discussion at the recent Wise kids event
http://digitalyouthwales.ning.com/

you can join that network, and pitch a question. In a week or two there will be summary blog posts too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Yvonne &#8211; can&#8217;t answer directly, but there were some very interesting discussion at the recent Wise kids event<br />
<a href="http://digitalyouthwales.ning.com/" rel="nofollow">http://digitalyouthwales.ning.com/</a></p>
<p>you can join that network, and pitch a question. In a week or two there will be summary blog posts too</p>
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		<title>By: Yvonne McLaughlin</title>
		<link>http://mediasnackers.com/2010/02/ladders-of-participation/#comment-3400</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvonne McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi DK &amp; David. I have had the benefit of your inspirational training DK (in MK) but doubt if I or the OU could afford you. I checked out the link David thanks..and that is another useful development of the original theory. One of the best things about the web is that it enables far more people to make their views known and get involved in change. However, I&#039;d heard that young people use the net for socialising far more than for either getting information (unless they have an assignment to write)or being involved in their communities. Do you think that is true ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DK &amp; David. I have had the benefit of your inspirational training DK (in MK) but doubt if I or the OU could afford you. I checked out the link David thanks..and that is another useful development of the original theory. One of the best things about the web is that it enables far more people to make their views known and get involved in change. However, I&#8217;d heard that young people use the net for socialising far more than for either getting information (unless they have an assignment to write)or being involved in their communities. Do you think that is true ?</p>
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		<title>By: David Wilcox</title>
		<link>http://mediasnackers.com/2010/02/ladders-of-participation/#comment-3399</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Yvonne, DK, Michele Ide-Smith posted another version &lt;a href=&quot;http://localcommunities.ning.com/profiles/blogs/a-digital-engagement-framework&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;over here on socialbysocial&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Yvonne, DK, Michele Ide-Smith posted another version <a href="http://localcommunities.ning.com/profiles/blogs/a-digital-engagement-framework" rel="nofollow">over here on socialbysocial</a></p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
		<link>http://mediasnackers.com/2010/02/ladders-of-participation/#comment-3398</link>
		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Yvonne - use away, just pop back and let us know what the students think / get out of it please... failing that, if you need a guest person to come in and deliver a &lt;a href=&quot;/services/#Speaking&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;talk/masterclass&lt;/a&gt; then just let me know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Yvonne &#8211; use away, just pop back and let us know what the students think / get out of it please&#8230; failing that, if you need a guest person to come in and deliver a <a href="/services/#Speaking" rel="nofollow">talk/masterclass</a> then just let me know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yvonne McLaughlin</title>
		<link>http://mediasnackers.com/2010/02/ladders-of-participation/#comment-3397</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvonne McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very impressed by this update of the &#039;Ladder&#039;. I may also use it in my other role as an OU tutor on a WWYP course that already uses the &#039;ladder&#039; and Hear By Right to discuss issues around the participation of young people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very impressed by this update of the &#8216;Ladder&#8217;. I may also use it in my other role as an OU tutor on a WWYP course that already uses the &#8216;ladder&#8217; and Hear By Right to discuss issues around the participation of young people.</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appreciate you taking the time to comment David and to add in your take plus links to other stuff.

Checking out Tims post reminded me of the Hear by Right Matrix (which I actually developed in my old role after they bought out the first iteration and I needed something to apply it, was well chuffed when they incorporated into their 2nd edition) - like you say, old melts into new and into old again :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciate you taking the time to comment David and to add in your take plus links to other stuff.</p>
<p>Checking out Tims post reminded me of the Hear by Right Matrix (which I actually developed in my old role after they bought out the first iteration and I needed something to apply it, was well chuffed when they incorporated into their 2nd edition) &#8211; like you say, old melts into new and into old again :-)</p>
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		<title>By: David Wilcox</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comparison DK, showing that the old issues of engagement, power, control play through into social media. The difference, perhaps, is that while power-holders can control traditional access to information and expression, they can&#039;t do that so easily in the digital world. For even earlier discussion see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.partnerships.org.uk/part/arn.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sherry Arnstein&#039;s ladder&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.partnerships.org.uk/guide/frame.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my development of that&lt;/a&gt;. Tim Davies has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timdavies.org.uk/2009/05/18/can-social-networks-bridge-the-participation-gap/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rather good further evolution&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comparison DK, showing that the old issues of engagement, power, control play through into social media. The difference, perhaps, is that while power-holders can control traditional access to information and expression, they can&#8217;t do that so easily in the digital world. For even earlier discussion see <a href="http://www.partnerships.org.uk/part/arn.htm" rel="nofollow">Sherry Arnstein&#8217;s ladder</a> and <a href="http://www.partnerships.org.uk/guide/frame.htm" rel="nofollow">my development of that</a>. Tim Davies has a <a href="http://www.timdavies.org.uk/2009/05/18/can-social-networks-bridge-the-participation-gap/" rel="nofollow">rather good further evolution</a>.</p>
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